tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.comments2023-10-31T09:56:21.108-04:00Celibate in the CityUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger2830125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1012760469442789262011-09-28T14:55:41.026-04:002011-09-28T14:55:41.026-04:00At the risk of having my words rephrased to mean m...At the risk of having my words rephrased to mean more than what they say, as verysoreloser and Rachel were - and knowing the original poster personally and having my words misunderstood in person - but having been asked by Glass Ceiling himself to comment (so if you don't care for my comments, give him an equal number of slaps) - I offer my two cents worth.<br /><br />People - single and Geoffreyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14234180315842124267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-58869771260555095662011-09-10T16:48:38.642-04:002011-09-10T16:48:38.642-04:00Notes From The Glass Ceiling -- Hawk at Wheat&...Notes From The Glass Ceiling -- Hawk at Wheat&Tares is interested in seeing if you would do some more guest posts?<br /><br />Contact her if you would.<br /><br />Thanks.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00219023897626648057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-3885076739032805892011-08-31T22:46:12.736-04:002011-08-31T22:46:12.736-04:00Going up at www.wheatandtares.org -- feel free to ...Going up at www.wheatandtares.org -- feel free to comment or update with additional thoughts.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00219023897626648057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-70204453680826541452011-08-17T15:02:31.567-04:002011-08-17T15:02:31.567-04:00Luvinna,
Good to hear from you. You may know som...Luvinna,<br /><br />Good to hear from you. You may know some folks that I know. My email is jesslangis@gmail.com<br />I'd love to know more about what's going on up north. :)Notes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-76099582946948871702011-08-16T20:39:03.026-04:002011-08-16T20:39:03.026-04:00I just wanted to say that I agree with you about t...I just wanted to say that I agree with you about the way the Church handle's 30+ singles activites. I base my decision on if I'm going to attend an activity partly on how many people are expected to be there. I'm such an introvert that if there are more than 20 or so people, I completely withdraw into myself, don't talk to anyone unless asked a direct question, and sit there Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-18869192276248742812011-07-27T22:29:11.707-04:002011-07-27T22:29:11.707-04:00I promise ...sorry. on an android.I promise ...sorry. on an android.Notes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-79991503653161386372011-07-27T22:26:31.647-04:002011-07-27T22:26:31.647-04:00Stephen,
ABSOLUTELY ! Which blog, out of curiosi...Stephen,<br /><br />ABSOLUTELY ! Which blog, out of curiosity? (U promise to be merely a spectator. ) :)Notes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-23617360029246842132011-07-27T21:27:52.094-04:002011-07-27T21:27:52.094-04:00Can I copy this for cross posting to another blog?...Can I copy this for cross posting to another blog?Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00219023897626648057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-24404324487343733262011-07-19T21:05:45.879-04:002011-07-19T21:05:45.879-04:00Rachel, I guess we started out on the wrong foot. ...Rachel, I guess we started out on the wrong foot. And I suppose it is a potentially explosive subject anyway. <br /><br />Regarding Jews, they are also supportive of part-member families, or so I hear.<br /><br />My only real point about Mormonism experiencing adolescence is that we have such low numbers compared to other, older religions. Add to that the fact that we cherish a value system Notes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-86611521634659122672011-07-14T12:45:56.615-04:002011-07-14T12:45:56.615-04:00Sorry, I thought I was done, but I thought I would...Sorry, I thought I was done, but I thought I would just put this in here... You said Jews have alwayss had matchmakers, well, there is a mormon matchmaker... go to themormonmatchmaker.comRachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09345068809197964302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-18617337861860763092011-07-14T12:41:11.998-04:002011-07-14T12:41:11.998-04:00Note- PS none of my comments about being "rud...Note- PS none of my comments about being "rude" or "accusatory" were directed directly at you or about you. Any comments I made were for people ingeneral.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09345068809197964302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-33650688178994127062011-07-14T12:39:12.900-04:002011-07-14T12:39:12.900-04:00Notes-
I feel like I have to deabte with you, whe...Notes-<br /><br />I feel like I have to deabte with you, when that is not why I stated my opinion. I am not trying to attack anything that you have said or done, simply state and show one person's point of view. I was not attacking you personally, but trying to relate to you that I doubt that changing the way activities are done will do much in response to activity among single adults, as Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09345068809197964302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-83278868973338662922011-07-13T21:02:23.379-04:002011-07-13T21:02:23.379-04:00Roger,
I agree with alot of what you are saying....Roger, <br /><br />I agree with alot of what you are saying. And you make your points very clearly and understandable. (and you ramble alot less than me, I promise.) :)<br /><br />And, like you, I believe that the problems are many, and there is no one thing that will make it all better. But I do beleive that getting people together in a way that actually allows them to get to know another personNotes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-54034231769294318072011-07-13T20:43:42.984-04:002011-07-13T20:43:42.984-04:00(Cont...)Sorry for all of the typos. I really need...(Cont...)Sorry for all of the typos. I really need to proofread, obviously. I hope you were able to get through it. :)<br /><br />THE LDS CHURCH:<br /><br />We are the only ones whose belief system REQUIRES chastity and worthiness as a road to marriage. We also are the only ones who apire for a temple marriage,as well as the belief that our very salvation depends upon it (with the understanding Notes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-14874755276006724602011-07-13T19:53:16.586-04:002011-07-13T19:53:16.586-04:00Rachel,
You also said, "I do pose a questio...Rachel, <br /><br />You also said, "I do pose a question to you, because you referenced that the church is in its “adolescent” stage compared to other churches. So here is the question, whose responsibility is it for everyone else in the world to get married? Do Jews, Catholics and others have such extensive measures to make sure those people marry within their faith? It is not the church’s Notes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-37061699800302820562011-07-13T19:19:31.768-04:002011-07-13T19:19:31.768-04:00Rachel,
You said, "We need to be the ones ta...Rachel,<br /><br />You said, "We need to be the ones taking the first steps because others are not. That is my point that we need to stop making excuses as to why these things are happening and start changing them ourselves."<br /><br />You also said in an earlier post, <br />"Yes, there is a crisis with singles in the Church. But, the crisis with the singles wont be changed by Notes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-27075940541590455162011-07-13T19:06:55.105-04:002011-07-13T19:06:55.105-04:00Rachel - Sounds like our ideas are pretty much the...Rachel - Sounds like our ideas are pretty much the same.<br /><br />Glass Ceiling - I'm not doubting your 90%, necessarily, and I wouldn't be any more surprised to hear a higher number. I am a little surprised that the overall activities numbers are so high at 50%. I could have sworn I had heard it was more like only about one-third of members at any given time are active (whatever &Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925767287127401628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-34655924457561385712011-07-13T14:15:51.308-04:002011-07-13T14:15:51.308-04:00Rodger- Absolutely people need to say something. ...Rodger- Absolutely people need to say something. I wasn't trying to say we should all stay silent, but do something. But that something that is said and done needs to be done in a tactful, non-accusatory way. I do not think that anyone should stay silent, but it is up to each of us to do something with our actions and words. In fact, it is healthy to let others know, in a respectful, calmRachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09345068809197964302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-9879464908214262722011-07-12T20:12:45.403-04:002011-07-12T20:12:45.403-04:00I can't type. Could you expand on that,Roger?...I can't type. Could you expand on that,Roger?Notes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-7963362200584219992011-07-12T20:06:18.587-04:002011-07-12T20:06:18.587-04:00Zip was not corrected...neither was I.
Roger, th...Zip was not corrected...neither was I. <br /><br />Roger, thank you for your comments. I must say though, stake rotation may be a bandaid...<br />But more like a full-on bandage for a serious wound. It may need replaced from time to time with other bandages just like it. But it'd be a bit more than a cursory afterthought.<br /><br />You mentioned that other major changes needed to be made Notes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-76965952607409604052011-07-12T19:50:22.980-04:002011-07-12T19:50:22.980-04:00Roger and Rachel. I appreciate both your input. I...Roger and Rachel. I appreciate both your input. I just need to say a few things. The 90+ % is the average number found out by several singles across the US, having talked to stake Presidents, Bishops, Regional Presidents, etc. At the ward level it is most obvious. Missionaries see it constantly. Young single mothers are the first to join the Church and the first to leave (Gee. Wonder why....) Notes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-56750500750800585502011-07-12T19:15:03.000-04:002011-07-12T19:15:03.000-04:00>Rodger- I agree with you when you say that oth...>Rodger- I agree with you when you say that others need to refrain from judgment. The problem I find is that you cannot change others, only yourself, and by changing yourself you are able to help change others. Telling someone to change rarely works. <br /><br />We're on the same page there, and I apologize if I came off as accusatory toward you. However, shouldn't people make known Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925767287127401628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-87081132831724446732011-07-12T18:26:18.855-04:002011-07-12T18:26:18.855-04:00I am going to address this in a couple ways, so pl...I am going to address this in a couple ways, so please bear with me.<br /><br />Jess- 1) I am not “shooting” anyone, merely offering my thoughts. And 2) I am in no way mad at all. I was just stating my opinion. My blood pressure has not spiked at all <br /><br />I do pose a question to you, because you referenced that the church is in its “adolescent” stage compared to other churches. So hereRachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09345068809197964302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-45811011682720798392011-07-12T15:23:59.871-04:002011-07-12T15:23:59.871-04:00It's been interesting for me to read this blog...It's been interesting for me to read this blog and the comments that<br />followed. I was also a "less active" who then became active again<br />when I was 30, and then married a few years later. From an<br />activities' perspective, the idea of pairing off with other stakes<br />periodically sounds like a great idea to me. While I agree with<br />Rachel that sometimes as Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00925767287127401628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-41701157912013899662011-07-11T18:51:36.817-04:002011-07-11T18:51:36.817-04:00Sorry Rachel,
I just read your entry agian, and I...Sorry Rachel,<br /><br />I just read your entry agian, and I have to add something regarding your views on current intactivity among all singles. THIS is the very reason I wrote my letter. Pretty much all activities that the Church offers today are geared for large numbers of people. It just simply does not work. (People can feel alone in a crowd just as easily as they can feel alone in their ownNotes From The Glass Ceilinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01392489375733735413noreply@blogger.com