tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post110030266428003680..comments2023-10-31T09:56:21.108-04:00Comments on Celibate in the City: Help a brother outUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100666188100705422004-11-16T23:36:00.000-05:002004-11-16T23:36:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100628804909007252004-11-16T13:13:00.000-05:002004-11-16T13:13:00.000-05:00JL,
Dual emails?
I have sacrificed so very much...JL, <br /><br />Dual emails?<br /><br />I have sacrificed so very much at the altar of the humor gods, my reputation is but a trifle.<br /><br />Davis <br /><br /><A></A><A></A>Message from<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fcelibateinthecity.blogspot.com%2F2004%2F11%2Fhelp-brother-out.html%23comments" TITLE="davis_bell2002 at yahoo dot com">Davis Bell</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100628548008434772004-11-16T13:09:00.000-05:002004-11-16T13:09:00.000-05:00Dear guy who wanted advice:
Just curious: Why ha...Dear guy who wanted advice:<br /><br />Just curious: Why have you "never considered" talking to the bishop? (That's not the same thing as "turning him in," which has kind of a law enforcement feel to it.) I think I understand why you might not want to do that, but why is it out of the question? It certianly is one approach that might work out quite well.<br /><br />A while ago in our ward, a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100616221988500842004-11-16T09:43:00.000-05:002004-11-16T09:43:00.000-05:00Thank you all for your thoughtful comments. I hav...Thank you all for your thoughtful comments. I have appreciated all your responses, and I am especially grateful to JL for allowing me to solicit your advice on her website. Also, I would like to apologize for bringing up such an icky subject. Sorry, all.<br /><br />Some of you have advised me to beware of making false accusations, since I am not sure what I saw. Let me clear that up. He was Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100579802147129162004-11-15T23:36:00.000-05:002004-11-15T23:36:00.000-05:00LOL
Davis,
You win the prize for being the most ...LOL <br />Davis,<br />You win the prize for being the most secure in your sexuality, either that or you're willing to sacrifice your rep to your sense of humor<br /><br />btw--you confused me with the dual emails, I'm like the donkey that starves because it's equidistant between two bales of hay<br /> <br /><br /><A></A><A></A>Message from<A><B> </B></A>JLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100577075413237052004-11-15T22:51:00.000-05:002004-11-15T22:51:00.000-05:00Gosh, I'm sorry. It won't happen again. You didn...Gosh, I'm sorry. It won't happen again. You didn't have to go and email JL about it, though. Thanks a lot.  <br /><br /><A></A><A></A>Message from<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fcelibateinthecity.blogspot.com%2F2004%2F11%2Fhelp-brother-out.html" TITLE="davis_bell2002 at yahoo dot com">Davis Bell</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100543039633115652004-11-15T13:23:00.000-05:002004-11-15T13:23:00.000-05:00I say, stay out of it. And definelty, do NOT go to...I say, stay out of it. And definelty, do NOT go to the bishop. I was once a 'victim' of that - a 'concerned' girl in my YWs group *thought* I had a drug probalem based on something she *thought* she overheard. Needless to say, I was called in to see one of the bishopric memebers one SUnday and nailed on my commitment (or lack thereof) to the word of wisdom. I had not, nor was I even considering,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100493284273561112004-11-14T23:34:00.000-05:002004-11-14T23:34:00.000-05:00You might want to check your source, just_one_opin...You might want to check your source, just_one_opinion. I do not fit in the 99% <EM>or</EM> the 1%. <br /><br /><A></A><A></A>Message from<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fkmsiever.blogspot.com%2F" TITLE="kim dot siever at uleth dot ca">Kim Siever</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100484257405389072004-11-14T21:04:00.000-05:002004-11-14T21:04:00.000-05:00Straight or gay, 99 percent masturbate and the oth...Straight or gay, 99 percent masturbate and the other one percent lies about it. I'd tell the e-mailer that he's lucky he hasn't been caught and tattled on by his roommate, and to mind his own business. <br /><br /><A></A><A></A>Message from<A><B> </B></A>just_one_opinionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100371368157665972004-11-13T13:42:00.000-05:002004-11-13T13:42:00.000-05:00Tell your bishop and forget about it. That is a p...Tell your bishop and forget about it. That is a perfectly honorable course of action and completely consistent with Christlike love for your roommate. It also unburdens you completely, which is fair because it is not your burden to bear. To do nothing would be like leaving the wounded man along the side of the road. (Just my strongly-held opinion.) <br /><br /><A></A><A></A>Message from<Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100366579301717812004-11-13T12:22:00.000-05:002004-11-13T12:22:00.000-05:00It's very possibile your friend has already talked...It's very possibile your friend has already talked to a bishop or many for that matter. Porn and some of its accompanying problems often take months to years to overcome with relapses in-between. <br /><br />It's not a bad idea to find out if he wants help or to talk about it, especially if you have a personal experience or success in stopping or avoiding it. <br /><br />As for the calling he Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100356869959957592004-11-13T09:41:00.000-05:002004-11-13T09:41:00.000-05:00"If the wave of temptation to reveal others' sins ..."If the wave of temptation to reveal others' sins comes over you, don't tell your neighbor or even your best friend. Go to your bishop. Leave the burden with him. If it is required, report it to the civil or criminal authorities and then leave it alone." (Elder Lynn A. Mickelsen)<br /><br />The bishop isn't going to spread around what you said, but he'll just have talk to the person hopefully Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100326274301231942004-11-13T01:11:00.000-05:002004-11-13T01:11:00.000-05:00There is a grand canyon of difference between a cr...There is a grand canyon of difference between a crack dealer and a surreptitious masturbator. The former endangers your safety, the latter does not. If you must say something to your roommate, say "Hey man, you should make sure you lock the door when you are doing your thing with the magazine (or computer). I accidentally walked in on you the other day." Enough said. He'll be plenty humiliated, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100323907746887032004-11-13T00:31:00.000-05:002004-11-13T00:31:00.000-05:00I'd say that you ought to confront the guy, and fi...I'd say that you ought to confront the guy, and find out whati sgoing on, before you go to the bishop, or anyone in your Ward. <br />But, I cant find myself agreeing with others who have said that you ought not to do anything. Case in point: I live in a house with a RM, and another couple of guys. Now, seems, a while back, the RM guy realised thatone of our housemates was a crackhead, and a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100319706073009022004-11-12T23:21:00.000-05:002004-11-12T23:21:00.000-05:00I agree, leave it alone. Especially do not go to t...I agree, leave it alone. Especially do not go to the bishop about something you think someone else is doing. My friend is in a ward where the bishop has asked for people to tattle if they see their friends and roommates doing anything questionable. This is not what the gospel is about, if someone is ready to change, and is repentant, they will talk to the bishop themselves. Don't take away this Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100317000030406622004-11-12T22:36:00.000-05:002004-11-12T22:36:00.000-05:00I say leave it be. If he wants help with the prob...I say leave it be. If he wants help with the problem (assuming there IS a problem) he will take care of it on his own. The best thing you can do is prepare yourself for the chance that he'll ask you for help. Arm yourself with knowlegdge from the recent and abundent advise given on the subject from conferance talks and pray to be able to say the right thing should the oppertunity to speak Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100309908185686132004-11-12T20:38:00.000-05:002004-11-12T20:38:00.000-05:00I agree with KP.
If you feel the need to talk to ...I agree with KP.<br /><br />If you feel the need to talk to anyone about this, talk to him directly--not with some sort of threat to go to the Bishop, but as a friend to offer a sympathetic ear and support if he wants to talk. If he doesn't want to get into it with you, then drop it. Don't go off telling other people about something that is none of your business in the first place and which Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100307256512992362004-11-12T19:54:00.000-05:002004-11-12T19:54:00.000-05:00Wow, I've decided to cut my blog reading back so i...Wow, I've decided to cut my blog reading back so it doesn't take too much time and then there is this.<br /><br />I'd be tempted to talk to the guy "Seems to me you wanted to be caught, want to talk about it?" for starters and see where that leads.<br /><br />You know the actual person better, I don't, so I could be really off base. <br /><br /><A></A><A></A>Message from<A><B> </B></A><A Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100306914488599252004-11-12T19:48:00.000-05:002004-11-12T19:48:00.000-05:00Nothing should be done based on what you *think* y...Nothing should be done based on what you *think* you saw. Forget it and move on. <br /><br /><A></A><A></A>Message from<A><B> </B></A><A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fcelibateinthecity.blogspot.com%2F2004%2F11%2Fhelp-brother-out.html%23comments" TITLE="nottelling dot com">jamesrt</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6679355.post-1100305766935688072004-11-12T19:29:00.000-05:002004-11-12T19:29:00.000-05:00"I'm not sure the thing for me as a friend to do i..."I'm not sure the thing for me as a friend to do is turn my back and pretend I'm not aware of the problem."<br /><br />I am. I'm sure he knows that you know, and that has been enough humiliation for the guy. If he wants to change, your confontation of him won't realy affect that. If he doesn't want to change, same thing. Some may disagree, but I don't think masterbation is the wurst sin in the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com